1 00:00:05,910 --> 00:00:05,030 okay here is part two 2 00:00:09,750 --> 00:00:05,920 of 3 00:00:11,030 --> 00:00:09,760 the brady bunch disclosure edition 4 00:00:14,310 --> 00:00:11,040 and 5 00:00:17,910 --> 00:00:14,320 i will go as long as i can on this part 6 00:00:20,550 --> 00:00:17,920 until my battery on my laptop dies or 7 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:20,560 the dog wakes up and interrupts me 8 00:00:25,429 --> 00:00:23,359 and i will make a third part most likely 9 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:25,439 i'm gonna need a third part 10 00:00:28,790 --> 00:00:26,160 so 11 00:00:33,270 --> 00:00:28,800 once again 12 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:35,670 and my blog 13 00:00:41,389 --> 00:00:38,320 and if you like this kind of stuff my 14 00:00:52,310 --> 00:00:45,350 ufojo11 at aol.com and then patreon is 15 00:00:58,630 --> 00:00:54,869 the last one is 16 00:01:03,029 --> 00:01:00,549 vimeo and then 17 00:01:05,750 --> 00:01:03,039 we will pick it up with 18 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:07,510 daniel 19 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:08,960 sheehan 20 00:01:12,710 --> 00:01:11,040 so 21 00:01:14,469 --> 00:01:12,720 he says okay 22 00:01:16,550 --> 00:01:14,479 we're making headway here 23 00:01:19,030 --> 00:01:16,560 what i'm trying to do is i'm trying to 24 00:01:21,510 --> 00:01:19,040 get an understanding of how 25 00:01:23,749 --> 00:01:21,520 of how we can all participate in getting 26 00:01:24,830 --> 00:01:23,759 more evidence to ralph 27 00:01:27,910 --> 00:01:24,840 so 28 00:01:30,069 --> 00:01:27,920 ralph is in a position to exercise 29 00:01:33,429 --> 00:01:30,079 completely responsible standards of a 30 00:01:35,510 --> 00:01:33,439 journalist's integrity to get integrity 31 00:01:37,109 --> 00:01:35,520 to get this info further out to the 32 00:01:39,109 --> 00:01:37,119 people 33 00:01:41,590 --> 00:01:39,119 and to understand was what is a real 34 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:41,600 event a real story and working with lou 35 00:01:49,030 --> 00:01:47,030 believes that a good deal of the 36 00:01:51,190 --> 00:01:49,040 information that the us government is 37 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:51,200 withholding 38 00:01:56,630 --> 00:01:54,399 merits being told to the american people 39 00:01:58,789 --> 00:01:56,640 and that it's not legitimately 40 00:02:01,350 --> 00:01:58,799 classified that's a pretty big deal if 41 00:02:03,429 --> 00:02:01,360 that's true we may have access 42 00:02:06,469 --> 00:02:03,439 to more information than we ever 43 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:06,479 expected in the near future 44 00:02:11,589 --> 00:02:09,520 fingers crossed 45 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:11,599 you know and and once again danny says 46 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:14,000 danny says it's the same thing challenge 47 00:02:17,830 --> 00:02:16,400 with depending on papers there were 47 48 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:17,840 volumes 49 00:02:23,030 --> 00:02:18,800 and 50 00:02:24,790 --> 00:02:23,040 danny got to look at those documents he 51 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:24,800 didn't have a clearance 52 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:26,800 uh and the the judge went through all of 53 00:02:31,270 --> 00:02:29,200 the information and 54 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:31,280 the judge got to see it and then the 55 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:33,440 united states attorney whitney north 56 00:02:37,190 --> 00:02:34,879 seymour 57 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:37,200 made an argument that you know that 58 00:02:40,790 --> 00:02:38,800 could hurt the national security of the 59 00:02:41,910 --> 00:02:40,800 united states but later on he admitted 60 00:02:44,229 --> 00:02:41,920 there really 61 00:02:45,910 --> 00:02:44,239 there was nothing that could irrevocably 62 00:02:48,150 --> 00:02:45,920 damage the national security of the 63 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:48,160 united states so 64 00:02:51,750 --> 00:02:49,760 new york times was able to print all of 65 00:02:56,949 --> 00:02:51,760 that 66 00:02:57,910 --> 00:02:56,959 lot of the ufo information 67 00:02:59,670 --> 00:02:57,920 and then and then i have a little 68 00:03:02,390 --> 00:02:59,680 summary of what the pentagon papers was 69 00:03:04,470 --> 00:03:02,400 about uh featuring daniel ellsberg who's 70 00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:04,480 basically a whistleblower we need a 71 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:07,040 modern day whistleblower like ellsberg 72 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:08,720 and i knew i know lou doesn't think we 73 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:09,840 need that 74 00:03:14,949 --> 00:03:12,480 i personally think we need multiple 75 00:03:17,830 --> 00:03:14,959 whistleblowers to push this along 76 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:17,840 otherwise it's going to take 77 00:03:21,750 --> 00:03:20,080 and then again you never know you know 78 00:03:23,430 --> 00:03:21,760 lou says that things are happening 79 00:03:25,430 --> 00:03:23,440 behind the scenes and you know look 80 00:03:26,390 --> 00:03:25,440 forward to the next couple of months 81 00:03:28,789 --> 00:03:26,400 we'll see 82 00:03:30,070 --> 00:03:28,799 i don't doubt that um but for me 83 00:03:31,589 --> 00:03:30,080 whistleblowers 84 00:03:33,509 --> 00:03:31,599 are a good thing as long as they're not 85 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:33,519 hurting the national security you know 86 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:34,959 not giving our adversaries any 87 00:03:39,509 --> 00:03:36,480 information that could be used against 88 00:03:39,519 --> 00:03:43,110 so danny says 89 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:45,589 we need to be careful as far as you know 90 00:03:49,030 --> 00:03:47,280 getting the information related to the 91 00:03:51,589 --> 00:03:49,040 classified annex 92 00:03:53,190 --> 00:03:51,599 of the uap report the 180-day report 93 00:03:54,949 --> 00:03:53,200 because we don't want to stop the flow 94 00:03:57,030 --> 00:03:54,959 of information that's going to the 95 00:04:00,390 --> 00:03:57,040 senate intelligence committee by having 96 00:04:02,390 --> 00:04:00,400 any illegitimate revelation of of those 97 00:04:05,270 --> 00:04:02,400 i think we need to be extraordinary 98 00:04:06,869 --> 00:04:05,280 characters extraordinarily careful those 99 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:06,879 of us who are all interested in getting 100 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:08,640 this done 101 00:04:13,589 --> 00:04:11,040 and then blumenthal jumps in 102 00:04:16,629 --> 00:04:13,599 ralph to the rescue he goes 103 00:04:17,909 --> 00:04:16,639 danny danny let's give marshall his say 104 00:04:20,229 --> 00:04:17,919 come on 105 00:04:21,189 --> 00:04:20,239 and then he's like 106 00:04:22,629 --> 00:04:21,199 listen 107 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:22,639 that was just the first part of our 108 00:04:26,629 --> 00:04:25,040 conversation so marshall i'd like to 109 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:26,639 have you 110 00:04:30,629 --> 00:04:28,320 you know part of the distress this 111 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:30,639 morning during your lecture as you were 112 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:32,400 talking is that you never quite got to 113 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:35,040 the allies of humanity the good guys 114 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:37,120 that you understand that you're in 115 00:04:41,590 --> 00:04:39,520 communication with that can come and be 116 00:04:43,110 --> 00:04:41,600 of some assistance to us and 117 00:04:45,749 --> 00:04:43,120 sharing information that you're sharing 118 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:45,759 with the people 119 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:48,160 and that the means by which you obtained 120 00:04:51,749 --> 00:04:50,000 this information i want you to briefly 121 00:04:53,670 --> 00:04:51,759 explain that and 122 00:04:55,749 --> 00:04:53,680 adam who worked on the 123 00:04:58,629 --> 00:04:55,759 princeton lab with 124 00:05:00,390 --> 00:04:58,639 anomalies research and telepath 125 00:05:03,990 --> 00:05:00,400 telepathy 126 00:05:08,150 --> 00:05:05,749 communicate to us what your 127 00:05:11,749 --> 00:05:08,160 understanding is about this particular 128 00:05:12,870 --> 00:05:11,759 phenomenon that marshall is conveying 129 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:12,880 channeling 130 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:15,280 and what type of evidence there is to 131 00:05:19,749 --> 00:05:16,960 suggest that 132 00:05:21,749 --> 00:05:19,759 there may be some credibility to it okay 133 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:21,759 so marshall go ahead 134 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:24,720 and please tell us about these allies 135 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:27,280 and we finally get to mr 136 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:29,680 marshall summers 137 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:31,440 and he first first of all he says you 138 00:05:38,870 --> 00:05:36,469 as far as what's leaking out to the 139 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:38,880 public from the government not my domain 140 00:05:43,510 --> 00:05:41,520 not my specialty i don't i don't know 141 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:43,520 what the government has or doesn't have 142 00:05:47,590 --> 00:05:45,680 i'm sure they have a lot after 50 or 60 143 00:05:49,830 --> 00:05:47,600 years of secrecy but i don't have any 144 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:49,840 intuition or insight into how much they 145 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:51,680 do or don't know 146 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:53,280 you know but either way you know they're 147 00:05:57,189 --> 00:05:55,280 kind of condemned either way because if 148 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:57,199 they don't know then they look pretty 149 00:06:01,350 --> 00:05:59,600 stupid and if they do know 150 00:06:03,270 --> 00:06:01,360 who can hear it in other words it's 151 00:06:04,390 --> 00:06:03,280 classified you know only a small amount 152 00:06:06,550 --> 00:06:04,400 of people have access to that 153 00:06:08,309 --> 00:06:06,560 information 154 00:06:10,469 --> 00:06:08,319 but marshall says 155 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:10,479 for him he was encouraged to receive a 156 00:06:13,749 --> 00:06:12,080 communique 157 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:13,759 and he really didn't want to do it 158 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:15,840 because his work is usually in the 159 00:06:19,430 --> 00:06:18,000 spiritual and religious realm 160 00:06:22,309 --> 00:06:19,440 and i didn't want to get into this 161 00:06:24,469 --> 00:06:22,319 business ufo business partly because my 162 00:06:27,189 --> 00:06:24,479 wife's brother was involved in it 163 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:27,199 earlier and it really had a damaging 164 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:29,520 impact upon his well-being 165 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:31,360 and he saw things that just didn't fit 166 00:06:37,270 --> 00:06:34,240 his reality 167 00:06:39,270 --> 00:06:37,280 uh he was an assistant 168 00:06:41,189 --> 00:06:39,280 and i'm just making sure my audio is 169 00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:41,199 going 170 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:44,160 so his brother-in-law 171 00:06:50,070 --> 00:06:46,000 was an assistant 172 00:06:52,469 --> 00:06:50,080 with george van tassel at giant rock 173 00:06:54,950 --> 00:06:52,479 and he's one of the earlier 174 00:06:58,230 --> 00:06:54,960 contactees 175 00:07:02,150 --> 00:07:00,309 he was there full-time 176 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:02,160 his brother-in-law 177 00:07:06,469 --> 00:07:04,400 and he finally had to leave he was he 178 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,479 was given a choice they told him either 179 00:07:10,870 --> 00:07:08,800 you go deeper into this which 180 00:07:13,990 --> 00:07:10,880 if that happens you're gonna have 181 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:14,000 no public identity no normal life 182 00:07:19,749 --> 00:07:16,560 and no access to just about anybody 183 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:19,759 which seems a little cult-like um or you 184 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:21,919 should probably bow out now because 185 00:07:25,350 --> 00:07:23,440 you're hitting a threshold where you're 186 00:07:27,110 --> 00:07:25,360 gonna have to make a choice 187 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:27,120 uh and apparently there was an offer to 188 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:29,120 his brother-in-law to go elsewhere and 189 00:07:32,390 --> 00:07:31,120 he took that offer 190 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:32,400 that's really interesting and i have 191 00:07:37,430 --> 00:07:35,520 some links to the george van tassel 192 00:07:38,469 --> 00:07:37,440 integratron 193 00:07:40,070 --> 00:07:38,479 um 194 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:40,080 information 195 00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:41,919 which i would like to go to one day just 196 00:07:45,270 --> 00:07:43,199 for the hell of it 197 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:45,280 it's in josh i think it's in joshua tree 198 00:07:47,749 --> 00:07:46,400 california 199 00:07:48,629 --> 00:07:47,759 probably like four and a half hours from 200 00:07:50,070 --> 00:07:48,639 here 201 00:07:52,869 --> 00:07:50,080 so marshall continues i've been 202 00:07:55,350 --> 00:07:52,879 reluctant because i've seen 203 00:07:57,510 --> 00:07:55,360 this ufos is a very messy and 204 00:07:59,830 --> 00:07:57,520 confabulated and repressed area of 205 00:08:01,830 --> 00:07:59,840 information but nonetheless 206 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:01,840 i was asked to receive this by a 207 00:08:05,029 --> 00:08:03,680 spiritual force that said we want you to 208 00:08:06,710 --> 00:08:05,039 receive 209 00:08:08,309 --> 00:08:06,720 these beings 210 00:08:10,469 --> 00:08:08,319 and 211 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:10,479 they actually did give me a small 212 00:08:14,390 --> 00:08:12,720 message actually on my honeymoon which i 213 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:14,400 didn't appreciate 214 00:08:21,830 --> 00:08:18,080 in 1983 and that message just said hear 215 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:21,840 us hear us hear us we have a message 216 00:08:26,150 --> 00:08:24,160 but they didn't come back until 1997 217 00:08:28,469 --> 00:08:26,160 when i was in a much better position i 218 00:08:32,310 --> 00:08:28,479 had written greater community spiritual 219 00:08:34,070 --> 00:08:32,320 greater community spirituality and 220 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:34,080 i was interested in the realm of 221 00:08:39,190 --> 00:08:36,719 theology in the universe and i mean 222 00:08:41,269 --> 00:08:39,200 that's been a real focus of mine so i 223 00:08:42,709 --> 00:08:41,279 began to receive these briefings after 224 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:42,719 much resistance 225 00:08:47,110 --> 00:08:44,800 you know i'm i'm surprised at how much 226 00:08:50,150 --> 00:08:47,120 resistance i had because i always 227 00:08:53,590 --> 00:08:50,160 thought of myself as being open to truth 228 00:08:55,829 --> 00:08:53,600 from whatever source right well 229 00:08:58,389 --> 00:08:55,839 i really wasn't open to truth from this 230 00:09:00,949 --> 00:08:58,399 source but i did finally acquiesce and 231 00:09:03,590 --> 00:09:00,959 began to receive the first parts and the 232 00:09:04,870 --> 00:09:03,600 first of the four allies of humanity 233 00:09:07,269 --> 00:09:04,880 briefings 234 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:07,279 but from a very distant voice very far 235 00:09:11,110 --> 00:09:09,360 away 236 00:09:14,389 --> 00:09:11,120 no physical presence 237 00:09:16,710 --> 00:09:14,399 no physical engagement no craft 238 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:16,720 nothing appearing in my room nothing 239 00:09:22,870 --> 00:09:19,680 splendid or exotic or anything 240 00:09:24,790 --> 00:09:22,880 just this communication 241 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:24,800 and so i recorded it 242 00:09:28,470 --> 00:09:26,800 as it was coming to me it was written 243 00:09:30,230 --> 00:09:28,480 out and is now available in the form 244 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:30,240 that i received it 245 00:09:33,430 --> 00:09:32,080 what i want to say about this is that 246 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:33,440 we're losing time to deal with this 247 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:35,760 we're losing critical time i mentioned 248 00:09:40,389 --> 00:09:37,760 four fundamental fundamental questions 249 00:09:41,990 --> 00:09:40,399 in my talk this morning and we're stuck 250 00:09:43,509 --> 00:09:42,000 on the first question 251 00:09:45,670 --> 00:09:43,519 basically the first question what is 252 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:45,680 what's going on the answer we have 253 00:09:49,670 --> 00:09:47,440 unknown objects of 254 00:09:51,750 --> 00:09:49,680 you know objects of unknown origin 255 00:09:53,750 --> 00:09:51,760 operating with impunity 256 00:09:56,550 --> 00:09:53,760 all over the globe especially in you 257 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:56,560 know restricted restricted airspace and 258 00:10:01,269 --> 00:09:58,240 that's all we know that's the first 259 00:10:02,870 --> 00:10:01,279 question we don't know anything else 260 00:10:03,670 --> 00:10:02,880 if there are people that know anything 261 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:03,680 else 262 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:05,440 you know we don't know about it it's 263 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:07,760 locked up in black programs 264 00:10:12,069 --> 00:10:10,160 and you know i've i've read a lot of 265 00:10:14,150 --> 00:10:12,079 channeled material in my life back in 266 00:10:16,829 --> 00:10:14,160 the day when i first got into this 267 00:10:22,870 --> 00:10:20,069 kryon you are becoming a galactic human 268 00:10:25,269 --> 00:10:22,880 by sheldon knightl i read 269 00:10:28,470 --> 00:10:25,279 the book of ra 270 00:10:29,350 --> 00:10:28,480 the law of one which i read book two 271 00:10:32,790 --> 00:10:29,360 and 272 00:10:35,350 --> 00:10:32,800 then i realized you know what all of 273 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:35,360 this information contradicts each other 274 00:10:37,829 --> 00:10:37,040 you know it's all different so i was 275 00:10:39,430 --> 00:10:37,839 like 276 00:10:40,870 --> 00:10:39,440 no more channeling 277 00:10:42,790 --> 00:10:40,880 and then i saw this conference and 278 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:42,800 marshall summers i started to listen to 279 00:10:47,509 --> 00:10:44,560 some of his interviews and i'm like you 280 00:10:49,430 --> 00:10:47,519 know what some of this resonates with me 281 00:10:52,310 --> 00:10:49,440 so i'm open to hearing more from 282 00:10:56,310 --> 00:10:54,550 so he continues he goes you know right 283 00:10:58,710 --> 00:10:56,320 now something needs to break somewhere 284 00:11:01,990 --> 00:10:58,720 and i don't think it will be through the 285 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:02,000 new york times and i don't expect ralph 286 00:11:05,269 --> 00:11:04,000 for you to be the vehicle for it or 287 00:11:07,030 --> 00:11:05,279 anything like that 288 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:07,040 and meanwhile there's so much different 289 00:11:11,190 --> 00:11:09,360 disinformation going on about this 290 00:11:13,269 --> 00:11:11,200 amongst the people on the internet it's 291 00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:13,279 shocking to me it's very shocking and i 292 00:11:19,030 --> 00:11:16,320 think much of it is unbelievable 293 00:11:21,430 --> 00:11:19,040 and some and in some of it 294 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:21,440 and some of it is downright dangerous 295 00:11:26,949 --> 00:11:24,880 and i'm pretty sure he's talking about 296 00:11:28,710 --> 00:11:26,959 the idea that these are our space 297 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:28,720 brothers and we need to communicate with 298 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:31,040 them and have open contact and welcome 299 00:11:36,949 --> 00:11:33,680 them in and get technology from them to 300 00:11:38,550 --> 00:11:36,959 change our lives and our planet 301 00:11:39,990 --> 00:11:38,560 and he does not think that's a good 302 00:11:40,829 --> 00:11:40,000 thing 303 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:40,839 he 304 00:11:46,150 --> 00:11:43,360 says my concern is that we really don't 305 00:11:47,750 --> 00:11:46,160 have any basis for evaluating a foreign 306 00:11:49,430 --> 00:11:47,760 presence in the world today and that 307 00:11:52,550 --> 00:11:49,440 foreign presence would be 308 00:11:56,470 --> 00:11:52,560 multiple et groups according to his 309 00:11:59,990 --> 00:11:58,550 he goes because we have no idea what is 310 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:00,000 going on 311 00:12:04,230 --> 00:12:02,880 in life beyond our world basically yeah 312 00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:04,240 all the information we have is in front 313 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:05,680 of us we see we don't get to see what's 314 00:12:09,350 --> 00:12:06,720 going on 315 00:12:10,389 --> 00:12:09,360 in space beyond space you know outer 316 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:10,399 space and 317 00:12:14,230 --> 00:12:12,480 you know other planets we have no idea 318 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:14,240 how things work in the galaxy basically 319 00:12:19,430 --> 00:12:16,560 is what he's saying so 320 00:12:21,190 --> 00:12:19,440 what rules are in place no idea 321 00:12:22,710 --> 00:12:21,200 how are you know 322 00:12:24,470 --> 00:12:22,720 other intelligences what are the what 323 00:12:25,750 --> 00:12:24,480 are they allowed to do what are they not 324 00:12:28,470 --> 00:12:25,760 allowed to do what can they get away 325 00:12:29,829 --> 00:12:28,480 with once again no idea and that's his 326 00:12:30,870 --> 00:12:29,839 point 327 00:12:32,629 --> 00:12:30,880 he goes 328 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:32,639 everything we ascertain is from our 329 00:12:36,629 --> 00:12:35,120 ground position from a human perspective 330 00:12:38,710 --> 00:12:36,639 and as a result 331 00:12:40,629 --> 00:12:38,720 i make no claim to understand et 332 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:40,639 intelligence i don't think i would even 333 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:42,240 presume to do that 334 00:12:47,110 --> 00:12:44,320 nor do i think that they're part of my 335 00:12:49,509 --> 00:12:47,120 spiritual cosmology or that i assign to 336 00:12:51,590 --> 00:12:49,519 them spiritual causes or anything like 337 00:12:53,269 --> 00:12:51,600 that and by them he means the allies of 338 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:53,279 humanity and that's good you know it's 339 00:12:59,190 --> 00:12:55,920 like it's for him it's just information 340 00:13:03,509 --> 00:13:01,990 if it resonates with you great and if 341 00:13:05,430 --> 00:13:03,519 not great 342 00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:05,440 and i know i've listened to earlier 343 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:06,880 interviews he's done and he's been a 344 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:07,839 little more 345 00:13:11,430 --> 00:13:10,480 you know confident that his message is 346 00:13:14,790 --> 00:13:11,440 100 347 00:13:17,269 --> 00:13:14,800 true uh here when he was pushed you know 348 00:13:19,670 --> 00:13:17,279 it was good because he's he's open to it 349 00:13:22,150 --> 00:13:19,680 not being true it's just information and 350 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:22,160 we need some way to verify it right now 351 00:13:25,350 --> 00:13:23,760 we don't have that 352 00:13:27,030 --> 00:13:25,360 maybe if we had access to the black 353 00:13:28,710 --> 00:13:27,040 budget data maybe some of that could 354 00:13:29,750 --> 00:13:28,720 show us that hey maybe marshall summers 355 00:13:31,990 --> 00:13:29,760 is right 356 00:13:34,790 --> 00:13:32,000 or maybe marshall summers summers is 357 00:13:37,030 --> 00:13:34,800 wrong but we don't have that 358 00:13:38,550 --> 00:13:37,040 does lou have access to any of that 359 00:13:39,750 --> 00:13:38,560 i don't know 360 00:13:41,350 --> 00:13:39,760 you know i'm talking about information 361 00:13:43,750 --> 00:13:41,360 that would tell us intent and how many 362 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:43,760 groups are here lou may have some of 363 00:13:47,750 --> 00:13:46,480 that information 364 00:13:49,590 --> 00:13:47,760 and 365 00:13:51,990 --> 00:13:49,600 marshall continues he thinks the allies 366 00:13:54,389 --> 00:13:52,000 of manatee briefings are 367 00:13:55,990 --> 00:13:54,399 a form of disclosure 368 00:13:56,870 --> 00:13:56,000 you know it's basically what you need to 369 00:13:59,350 --> 00:13:56,880 know 370 00:14:00,389 --> 00:13:59,360 about who is in your world why they're 371 00:14:01,750 --> 00:14:00,399 here 372 00:14:03,990 --> 00:14:01,760 what they're doing and what their 373 00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:04,000 ultimate game plan is 374 00:14:07,030 --> 00:14:05,120 and that's what comes through in the 375 00:14:08,470 --> 00:14:07,040 briefings which i have not read i have 376 00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:08,480 read some of them and i've listened to 377 00:14:11,269 --> 00:14:10,000 some of his interviews 378 00:14:13,269 --> 00:14:11,279 he goes and here's what you need to know 379 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:13,279 about your local universe that gives 380 00:14:17,430 --> 00:14:15,600 rise to this intervention 381 00:14:18,710 --> 00:14:17,440 and what supports it and what's what 382 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:18,720 limits it 383 00:14:22,790 --> 00:14:21,040 what dictates what it is able to do and 384 00:14:24,949 --> 00:14:22,800 not able to do in the realm of greater 385 00:14:26,710 --> 00:14:24,959 things that we have no information about 386 00:14:28,550 --> 00:14:26,720 so 387 00:14:30,310 --> 00:14:28,560 if all we have to go on is physical 388 00:14:31,990 --> 00:14:30,320 evidence on the ground or sightings in 389 00:14:33,430 --> 00:14:32,000 our sky i think we only have a very 390 00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:33,440 small piece 391 00:14:37,990 --> 00:14:36,240 of the puzzle maybe 40 percent 392 00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:38,000 so we can answer the first question but 393 00:14:40,230 --> 00:14:39,279 beyond that 394 00:14:41,910 --> 00:14:40,240 you know 395 00:14:43,590 --> 00:14:41,920 why is it happening 396 00:14:45,509 --> 00:14:43,600 why does it you know what does it mean 397 00:14:47,430 --> 00:14:45,519 how do we prepare 398 00:14:49,430 --> 00:14:47,440 well 399 00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:49,440 we don't know you know we go to the gov 400 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:50,720 we go to the government for answers and 401 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:53,360 they don't give us any answers 402 00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:56,320 and then shane uh 403 00:15:01,030 --> 00:14:58,399 danny sheehan says 404 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:01,040 let's try to be clear marshall who is it 405 00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:03,279 that you understand 406 00:15:08,230 --> 00:15:06,399 is communicating this 407 00:15:10,949 --> 00:15:08,240 let me try again let's be let's try to 408 00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:10,959 be clear marshall who is it 409 00:15:15,030 --> 00:15:12,480 that you understand 410 00:15:16,870 --> 00:15:15,040 is communicating this information to you 411 00:15:18,389 --> 00:15:16,880 telepathically 412 00:15:20,710 --> 00:15:18,399 who is that group 413 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:20,720 what is that about 414 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:22,959 and someone says well 415 00:15:27,430 --> 00:15:25,120 they claim to be a group of 416 00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:27,440 seven individuals from 417 00:15:31,509 --> 00:15:29,759 seven worlds who have been observing the 418 00:15:35,990 --> 00:15:31,519 alien intervention 419 00:15:41,030 --> 00:15:38,629 and these beings can report 420 00:15:44,069 --> 00:15:41,040 on the activities of these other beings 421 00:15:44,870 --> 00:15:44,079 who are here so the allies are reporting 422 00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:44,880 on 423 00:15:49,829 --> 00:15:47,920 the alleged group or groups of ets that 424 00:15:51,030 --> 00:15:49,839 are on our planet 425 00:15:53,350 --> 00:15:51,040 and basically 426 00:15:55,269 --> 00:15:53,360 milking it for all it's worth using its 427 00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:55,279 resources and we are one of the 428 00:15:58,790 --> 00:15:57,199 resources according to this channeling 429 00:16:01,350 --> 00:15:58,800 and the allies are 430 00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:01,360 telling us what's going on you know 431 00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:03,199 telling us what the bad guys are doing 432 00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:06,160 and not necessarily bad guys as an evil 433 00:16:11,670 --> 00:16:09,120 but the ones who are here with selfish 434 00:16:13,509 --> 00:16:11,680 for selfish reasons 435 00:16:16,470 --> 00:16:13,519 and so they can 436 00:16:17,910 --> 00:16:16,480 tell us what's going on because 437 00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:17,920 the groups that are here it's an 438 00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:20,079 expeditionary force this is not a big 439 00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:21,600 military force 440 00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:24,079 and it appears after 70 years of being 441 00:16:28,230 --> 00:16:26,160 here they're laying the foundation for 442 00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:28,240 something else to come and they're doing 443 00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:29,839 many other things that i mentioned in my 444 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:32,079 talk this morning 445 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:34,000 i will i will transcribe his talk too 446 00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:35,519 when i get it i don't have access to any 447 00:16:40,629 --> 00:16:37,839 other lectures right now 448 00:16:43,910 --> 00:16:42,470 i had to sit with this for a couple of 449 00:16:45,749 --> 00:16:43,920 years he says 450 00:16:47,350 --> 00:16:45,759 really before i even knew what to do 451 00:16:49,829 --> 00:16:47,360 with it because 452 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:49,839 i can't prove to you my source is real 453 00:16:53,910 --> 00:16:51,360 or authentic 454 00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:53,920 i can't prove to you it's authenticity 455 00:16:58,949 --> 00:16:56,240 it's only the only the quality of the 456 00:17:01,829 --> 00:16:58,959 message itself and its coherence 457 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:01,839 with what is observable on the ground 458 00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:04,400 and my own sense of i think i think this 459 00:17:08,789 --> 00:17:07,039 rings true to me but i don't know why 460 00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:08,799 i'm not in a position to say what is 461 00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:10,640 true about life in the universe and what 462 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:13,120 is not but this is a message that i'm 463 00:17:18,549 --> 00:17:16,000 tasked to take out of to take out to the 464 00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:18,559 world to translate into many languages 465 00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:20,640 so people have an opportunity from a 466 00:17:24,870 --> 00:17:22,400 citizen standpoint you know this is kind 467 00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:24,880 of a citizen's initiative if you will to 468 00:17:28,870 --> 00:17:26,480 look at this from a certain level of 469 00:17:31,350 --> 00:17:28,880 practicality and feasibility based upon 470 00:17:34,630 --> 00:17:31,360 what we know from what we have learned 471 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:34,640 here from life on earth 472 00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:36,880 and he takes a break and danny sheen 473 00:17:41,110 --> 00:17:39,039 jumps in and says 474 00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:41,120 as lou pointed out 475 00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:44,880 legitimately and ralph has two 476 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:45,679 and 477 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:46,640 i do 478 00:17:50,070 --> 00:17:48,160 as an attorney 479 00:17:52,230 --> 00:17:50,080 we need to know more about the source of 480 00:17:53,590 --> 00:17:52,240 this information in order to evaluate 481 00:17:54,789 --> 00:17:53,600 the credibility 482 00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:54,799 you know 483 00:18:01,590 --> 00:17:57,760 setting aside uh with adam which we'll 484 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:01,600 address in a second you know 485 00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:03,760 the claim that you're receiving this 486 00:18:07,669 --> 00:18:05,919 information telepathically will address 487 00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:07,679 that separately 488 00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:09,360 but the nature of the source of the 489 00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:11,120 information you say are seven 490 00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:13,280 individuals from different planets 491 00:18:19,669 --> 00:18:16,160 different star systems in our galaxy are 492 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:19,679 they from our galaxy you think 493 00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:22,799 and marshall summer says 494 00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:28,070 let me share some other information that 495 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:30,640 i think bespeaks their intent 496 00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:33,360 as being neutral observers he's talking 497 00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:34,960 about the allies 498 00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:37,039 one of the things and i'll say 499 00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:38,880 the allies are the ones helping us and 500 00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:41,039 the intervention folks are the ones who 501 00:18:44,710 --> 00:18:42,559 are 502 00:18:47,669 --> 00:18:44,720 pillaging the earth you know taking all 503 00:18:49,750 --> 00:18:47,679 that they can get 504 00:18:51,909 --> 00:18:49,760 one of the things the allies say at the 505 00:18:53,669 --> 00:18:51,919 beginning is no one should be visiting 506 00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:53,679 your world for any reason because 507 00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:55,919 humanity is not ready for contact it 508 00:19:00,470 --> 00:18:58,080 doesn't have human unity 509 00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:00,480 species maturity or any kind of 510 00:19:05,430 --> 00:19:02,880 preparedness for this event to happen so 511 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:05,440 all i can say and 512 00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:09,520 species maturity come on 513 00:19:13,990 --> 00:19:12,480 kim kardashian has 70 million 514 00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:14,000 followers 515 00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:17,520 luel alzando has i don't know 516 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:20,480 10 000 maybe yeah yeah no big deal you 517 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:22,400 know we have our priorities on this 518 00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:24,640 planet aren't screwed up at all 519 00:19:28,549 --> 00:19:26,960 uh and as far as imagine some race 520 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:28,559 coming down and saying 521 00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:31,600 okay who represents your planet 522 00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:33,760 we have no representative we have you 523 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:36,320 know we battle we have adversaries so 524 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:41,750 you know another thing i'm not sure if 525 00:19:46,150 --> 00:19:43,760 he mentions that in this lecture i don't 526 00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:46,160 know if he mentions it he mentions it in 527 00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,679 other lectures 528 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:49,679 um he says that 529 00:19:54,150 --> 00:19:52,960 there were there were positive groups 530 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:54,160 who had 531 00:19:58,230 --> 00:19:56,320 good intentions for humanity they were 532 00:19:59,830 --> 00:19:58,240 here but then they pulled out 533 00:20:02,470 --> 00:19:59,840 um and left 534 00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:02,480 so it would become clear that whoever is 535 00:20:05,669 --> 00:20:03,760 left 536 00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:05,679 they do not have our best interests in 537 00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:08,159 heart otherwise at heart otherwise 538 00:20:11,029 --> 00:20:09,280 if it was different groups with 539 00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:11,039 different intentions like positive and 540 00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:12,240 negative 541 00:20:15,430 --> 00:20:13,840 you would have no idea who is who you 542 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:15,440 know we don't know we're humans how the 543 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:17,520 hell am i supposed to tell that craft is 544 00:20:21,990 --> 00:20:20,480 a good guy that craft is you know 545 00:20:23,669 --> 00:20:22,000 sucking resources from the earth and 546 00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:23,679 really doesn't give a crap about humans 547 00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:26,400 so according to the message the claim 548 00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,480 the good guys left and so now it's 549 00:20:31,510 --> 00:20:30,559 pretty easy to discern whoever's left 550 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:31,520 here 551 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:32,960 they don't have our best interests that 552 00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:38,070 so 553 00:20:42,070 --> 00:20:40,320 they say no one and this is the allies 554 00:20:44,149 --> 00:20:42,080 no one should be visiting your world for 555 00:20:46,549 --> 00:20:44,159 any reason because humanity's not ready 556 00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:46,559 we're not mature we don't have a leader 557 00:20:50,870 --> 00:20:48,880 we're not united 558 00:20:54,149 --> 00:20:50,880 and then danny gets on his case a little 559 00:20:58,149 --> 00:20:56,070 that's telling us more about what it is 560 00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,159 they're saying what i'm trying to do is 561 00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:59,919 i'm trying to put myself in loose shoes 562 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:01,679 and ralph's shoes and my shoes as an 563 00:21:04,310 --> 00:21:02,640 attorney 564 00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:04,320 and saying 565 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:05,919 quote the source that you're talking 566 00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,400 about what have they told you about who 567 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:10,640 they are and what their reason is for 568 00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:12,880 knowing this information that's how you 569 00:21:17,430 --> 00:21:15,039 explore the credibility of a source even 570 00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:17,440 if they're an unnamed source or a 571 00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:19,520 potential source that wants to maintain 572 00:21:22,870 --> 00:21:21,280 anonymity 573 00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:22,880 i did the case that went to the supreme 574 00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:24,799 court to protect i ident the identity of 575 00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:27,039 confidential news sources and he laughs 576 00:21:32,070 --> 00:21:29,520 he goes so i'm respectful of that but i 577 00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:32,080 need to know who they are and what what 578 00:21:36,549 --> 00:21:34,320 is the means by which they profess to 579 00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:36,559 have access to knowing this information 580 00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:39,679 if you can share with that with us 581 00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:41,840 and marshall says 582 00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:44,559 their story 583 00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:47,360 and they don't tell their their identity 584 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,280 and where they're from because 585 00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:51,360 they're acting as spies basically they 586 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:54,159 come from planets where 587 00:21:58,390 --> 00:21:55,840 they're not even representing their 588 00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:58,400 planets their 589 00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:00,080 they're on some kind of 590 00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:02,000 greater 591 00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:04,400 spiritual mission because 592 00:22:08,789 --> 00:22:06,559 their planets represent free societies 593 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:08,799 in a universe of large technological 594 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:10,480 societies where freedom is either 595 00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:12,880 unknown or repressed so it's a little 596 00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:14,240 confusing that to me to me that's a 597 00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:16,480 little confusing so are they not part of 598 00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:18,799 their planets anymore are they just 599 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:20,320 you know are they part of whatever 600 00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:21,840 planets they are and they're just acting 601 00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:24,159 as rogue helpers for us 602 00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:25,679 you know i would love a follow up with 603 00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:28,240 him in the future 604 00:22:33,110 --> 00:22:30,240 and danny asks danny says are they all 605 00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:33,120 in our galaxy and marshall says yes 606 00:22:36,310 --> 00:22:35,280 this is our local space this is local 607 00:22:38,230 --> 00:22:36,320 space 608 00:22:39,990 --> 00:22:38,240 so i'm telling you the story they tell 609 00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,000 me okay 610 00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:42,000 and that they underwent the kind of 611 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:44,240 intervention in their history that we're 612 00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:46,720 undergoing now and they were able to 613 00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:48,559 ward off that intervention through 614 00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,520 various means sometimes violently 615 00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:53,679 and that is why they have asked been 616 00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:56,080 asked to come and give us their wisdom 617 00:22:59,830 --> 00:22:57,679 about this because we have no idea 618 00:23:01,830 --> 00:22:59,840 what's going on beyond our borders and 619 00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,840 we're very limited in how we can fill 620 00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,280 out this picture 621 00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:05,360 he says they were asked to come i don't 622 00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:06,840 know who asked them 623 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,240 so was there a grand poobah of allies 624 00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:12,000 you know was there a boss man that we 625 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:14,080 don't know about that's probably in the 626 00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:15,200 books 627 00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:19,600 and they're free online i mean you could 628 00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:21,360 buy the physical book if you want but 629 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,799 all the information from the four books 630 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:24,480 is available online 631 00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:27,760 the allies of humanity.org 632 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:29,919 for free 633 00:23:32,710 --> 00:23:30,720 so 634 00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:32,720 marshall says the allies they're giving 635 00:23:41,269 --> 00:23:39,909 they're giving us the picture and that 636 00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:41,279 is what they're 637 00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:42,240 there 638 00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:48,390 they've never visited our world they 639 00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:50,080 have no plans on establishing 640 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:51,760 relationships with us because they say 641 00:23:57,430 --> 00:23:54,320 we're far too immature to engage in 642 00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,440 contact successfully and that no race 643 00:24:01,909 --> 00:23:59,840 who would ever be an ally of humanity 644 00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:01,919 would try to do what is occurring in the 645 00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:02,840 world 646 00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:05,520 today and then danny asks if they're 647 00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:07,520 capable of interstellar space travel and 648 00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:09,600 he says well if they come from different 649 00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:11,679 planets i would assume so you know i 650 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:13,919 mean they actually say that space travel 651 00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:15,520 has been around even before human 652 00:24:20,950 --> 00:24:18,480 civilization far before so we're way 653 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:20,960 behind that curve and so we should never 654 00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:23,600 try to ascertain the limits of human and 655 00:24:28,870 --> 00:24:24,640 then 656 00:24:32,470 --> 00:24:30,230 marshall 657 00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:32,480 this is all very interesting but in 658 00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:35,120 order to keep this discussion on track 659 00:24:39,190 --> 00:24:36,960 i think we've got to figure out ways to 660 00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,200 establish the independent authority of 661 00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:41,440 information and how to get it out to the 662 00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:42,720 public 663 00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:43,760 so while 664 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:47,200 john mack marshall dealt with a dealt 665 00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:49,440 with a lot of anecdotal accounts like 666 00:24:54,230 --> 00:24:52,480 yours and they were very compelling as 667 00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:54,240 is yours 668 00:24:58,549 --> 00:24:56,400 he also realized that unless there was 669 00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:58,559 some way of verifying these accounts or 670 00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:01,200 making or checking them or testing them 671 00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:03,760 they remain anecdotal and anecdotal 672 00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:06,000 evidence as danny knows is acceptable in 673 00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:07,919 court 674 00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:10,080 people get convicted with it 675 00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:11,840 it's 676 00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,279 but in the end 677 00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:15,679 this discussion seems to require some 678 00:25:19,750 --> 00:25:17,440 other element of corroboration and 679 00:25:23,669 --> 00:25:19,760 verification and how people who don't 680 00:25:26,230 --> 00:25:23,679 necessarily believe or are or who are 681 00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:26,240 skeptical can be led to understand the 682 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:28,559 realities the complexity 683 00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,240 so let's figure out 684 00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:32,159 for example hearing your story marshall 685 00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:34,559 i would say one interesting thing would 686 00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:35,279 be 687 00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:38,000 to study the physics or the mechanics of 688 00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:39,840 these communications you know what 689 00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:41,520 changes are going on in your brain as 690 00:25:44,870 --> 00:25:42,880 this is happening 691 00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:44,880 you know these are things that are 692 00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:47,600 amenable to scientific study 693 00:25:52,149 --> 00:25:50,480 and that would conceivably or could 694 00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:52,159 result in some cooperation some 695 00:25:57,669 --> 00:25:53,919 understanding of what process is 696 00:25:59,269 --> 00:25:57,679 involved otherwise it's just anecdotal 697 00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:59,279 you know this happened to me and there's 698 00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:01,120 no way to check it and it didn't happen 699 00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:03,279 to you it just happened to me and that's 700 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:04,799 the end of the story 701 00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:06,640 so to get beyond that we've got to 702 00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:08,720 figure out a way to figure out a way 703 00:26:12,549 --> 00:26:10,320 you know we found out like we found out 704 00:26:14,470 --> 00:26:12,559 with uap they were caught on radar and 705 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:14,480 thermal imaging devices and clear 706 00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:17,520 cameras so now we know they exist so 707 00:26:21,909 --> 00:26:19,600 it's not an anecdotal story anymore at 708 00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,870 and danny changes pace a little bit and 709 00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:26,960 goes to 710 00:26:30,950 --> 00:26:28,480 he says 711 00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,960 let's go to adam adam without putting 712 00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,640 you on the spot 713 00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:34,320 and marshall you can see what i'm trying 714 00:26:38,070 --> 00:26:35,760 to do i'm trying to bring the tools we 715 00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,080 have as journalists and as professional 716 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,840 investigators like lou and security 717 00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:41,200 people you know to bring in some 718 00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:42,880 additional type of potential insight 719 00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:45,279 into this adam what can you share with 720 00:26:49,430 --> 00:26:47,120 us about the areas that you studied at 721 00:26:51,350 --> 00:26:49,440 princeton that can help shed some light 722 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:51,360 on the very question that ralph asked 723 00:26:55,669 --> 00:26:52,720 has asked 724 00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:55,679 what is the mechanism by means of which 725 00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,320 this may have happened and he means by 726 00:27:01,510 --> 00:26:59,919 this he means 727 00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,520 information 728 00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:03,279 telepathically 729 00:27:06,710 --> 00:27:04,480 channeled 730 00:27:09,110 --> 00:27:06,720 to marshall and he received it so how 731 00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:09,120 would that even work 732 00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:10,880 what is the mechanism and then we 733 00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:14,159 finally get to adam curry who worked at 734 00:27:18,630 --> 00:27:17,440 the princeton lab as a kid 735 00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:18,640 or at least he was there i don't think 736 00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:20,480 he worked there 737 00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:22,559 adam says the requirement for something 738 00:27:26,870 --> 00:27:24,480 like empirical evidence behind the 739 00:27:28,630 --> 00:27:26,880 anecdotes is very important 740 00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,640 uh of those issues that were grappled 741 00:27:31,590 --> 00:27:30,480 with by the laboratories of which i was 742 00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,600 apart 743 00:27:35,830 --> 00:27:33,440 i was fortunate as a teenager to have 744 00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:35,840 mentors of robert john who was the dean 745 00:27:42,789 --> 00:27:40,230 dean of the engineering school at 746 00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:42,799 princeton and founded the pear lab which 747 00:27:47,510 --> 00:27:45,520 is a consciousness research organization 748 00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:47,520 and edgar mitchell who was the apollo 749 00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,520 astronaut who founded the institute of 750 00:27:53,190 --> 00:27:51,360 noetic scientists 751 00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:53,200 both of those men had reached the height 752 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:55,520 of their technical career very early in 753 00:28:00,070 --> 00:27:58,000 life actually in their 40s and both of 754 00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:00,080 them from this vantage had come to see 755 00:28:04,789 --> 00:28:02,240 that something was missing each of them 756 00:28:07,190 --> 00:28:04,799 had also had a transformative experience 757 00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,200 that compelled them to investigate ways 758 00:28:10,950 --> 00:28:09,600 in which we can scientifically verify 759 00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:10,960 anecdotes 760 00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,520 such as what mr summers is discussing 761 00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,600 in the case of bob john he created a 762 00:28:21,669 --> 00:28:19,440 laboratory to look at the ability of 763 00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:21,679 consciousness to do things outside the 764 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:23,600 body 765 00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:25,840 so famously he was involved in the early 766 00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:27,600 remote viewing research with hal put off 767 00:28:32,389 --> 00:28:29,840 and russell targ and those guys but he's 768 00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:32,399 perhaps best known for the work 769 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:35,200 with the random number generators 770 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,200 so it's basically a physical system 771 00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:39,600 physical equipment that converts 772 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:42,960 fundamentally random physical processes 773 00:28:48,230 --> 00:28:44,399 processes 774 00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:48,240 zeros 775 00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:50,240 so for example you could think of it 776 00:28:53,669 --> 00:28:51,039 like 777 00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:53,679 a coin flipper it's flipping ones and 778 00:28:59,110 --> 00:28:56,559 zeros in a long string you can ask 779 00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:59,120 somebody using their attention to 780 00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:00,960 attempt to nudge the outcome of the 781 00:29:06,070 --> 00:29:03,120 random number generator more towards 782 00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:06,080 ones or more more towards zeros 783 00:29:10,470 --> 00:29:07,919 whatever the person is choosing 784 00:29:12,149 --> 00:29:10,480 and it behaves that way 785 00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,159 there's an easily measurable 786 00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:14,080 statistically significant outcome in 787 00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:16,320 most cases that corresponds to the 788 00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,320 direction of the intention 789 00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,880 so that suggests that consciousness is 790 00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:22,880 more than just an illusion of the brain 791 00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,799 but that it is somehow connected to the 792 00:29:28,789 --> 00:29:26,960 fabric of physical reality through space 793 00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:28,799 and time in ways which we're still 794 00:29:33,269 --> 00:29:31,120 trying to understand edgar mitchell was 795 00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:33,279 involved in a lots and a lot of similar 796 00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:34,880 work through the institute of neurotic 797 00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:37,679 scientists and dean raiden continues to 798 00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:39,600 explore telepathy clairvoyance the 799 00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:41,919 ability of humans in this case to 800 00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,919 communicate ideas 801 00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:45,840 um so just back back to the random 802 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:47,520 number generator 803 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:50,320 basically yeah it flips a coin 804 00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:53,279 and you would expect it to come out 50 805 00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:56,880 heads 50 tails you know it's not saying 806 00:30:00,789 --> 00:29:58,480 it's using ones and zeros but you know 807 00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:00,799 it's the same thing one or zero versus 808 00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:03,039 heads or tails same thing you would 809 00:30:07,750 --> 00:30:05,120 expect fifty percent ones 810 00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:07,760 fifty percent zeros but then you tell 811 00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,480 the person in the room or wherever say i 812 00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:12,559 want you to focus on ones 813 00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:13,840 and 814 00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:15,039 i just 815 00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:20,549 statistically 816 00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:23,600 what's the word basically 817 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:25,120 statistic all right statistically 818 00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:26,399 significant 819 00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:27,760 outcome 820 00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,600 occurs where it happens there are more 821 00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:31,840 ones than zeros more heads than tails it 822 00:30:37,029 --> 00:30:34,960 should be 50 50 but these studies 823 00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:37,039 i don't know if it's 52 53 you know it 824 00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:39,120 depends on how many trials you do if you 825 00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:41,039 do a million trials you know and it 826 00:30:48,070 --> 00:30:45,600 comes out 53 heads 50 you know 47 tails 827 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:48,080 that would be statistically significant 828 00:30:52,149 --> 00:30:50,000 i mean if you only get 10 trials you 829 00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:52,159 know and it was seven heads and three 830 00:30:56,710 --> 00:30:54,559 tails yeah big deal that's only 10 831 00:30:58,149 --> 00:30:56,720 trials you try to get as many trials as 832 00:30:59,350 --> 00:30:58,159 possible 833 00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:59,360 i don't know how many trials have been 834 00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:00,240 done 835 00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:02,159 but it's been a lot they've been doing 836 00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:04,399 this for decades 837 00:31:08,470 --> 00:31:05,760 so 838 00:31:10,149 --> 00:31:08,480 adam says and basically yeah the human 839 00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:10,159 consciousness is supposedly affecting 840 00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:12,880 these random number generators also 841 00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:15,440 something called the princeton eggs 842 00:31:20,230 --> 00:31:18,480 same thing one or zero and some for some 843 00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:20,240 reason when 844 00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:22,159 a large portion of the globe is doing 845 00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:24,799 the same activity as example for example 846 00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:28,000 if they're watching the academy awards 847 00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,240 those random number generators become 848 00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,720 less random you know 849 00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:34,799 so it seems like group consciousness 850 00:31:39,830 --> 00:31:38,000 does does have an effect on 851 00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:39,840 the physical world 852 00:31:45,430 --> 00:31:44,000 and there also was a build up to 911 on 853 00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:45,440 those devices 854 00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:47,519 you could see that the group 855 00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:48,880 consciousness 856 00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:50,480 these things were random and then they 857 00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:52,640 started becoming not random and it built 858 00:31:56,310 --> 00:31:55,039 it built up to 911 to the to the first 859 00:31:58,630 --> 00:31:56,320 plane heading 860 00:32:01,590 --> 00:31:58,640 why that happened before you know we 861 00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:01,600 were anticipating as you know on a 862 00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:03,279 subconscious level something was about 863 00:32:06,310 --> 00:32:04,880 to happen i don't know but you should 864 00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:06,320 definitely check that out i will try to 865 00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:09,360 link to that also um 866 00:32:12,470 --> 00:32:10,720 in the blog 867 00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:12,480 interesting you know 868 00:32:15,669 --> 00:32:14,080 but yeah it definitely appears that 869 00:32:17,909 --> 00:32:15,679 humans can affect 870 00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:17,919 physical objects random number 871 00:32:23,750 --> 00:32:20,399 generators with just their consciousness 872 00:32:28,230 --> 00:32:25,990 so adam continues the cumulative 873 00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:28,240 database of the princeton results over a 874 00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:30,320 couple of decades has odds against 875 00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:33,760 chance of 1 in 10 to the 12th 876 00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:34,640 and 877 00:32:38,389 --> 00:32:36,320 i'm not a statistician but that's i 878 00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,399 would think that's a very large number 879 00:32:43,669 --> 00:32:41,039 um and he says there was a recent meta 880 00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:43,679 study of a thousand and three 881 00:32:47,029 --> 00:32:45,679 peer-reviewed papers over a thousand 882 00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:47,039 just over a thousand peer-reviewed 883 00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:49,200 papers on psi phenomenon 884 00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,640 psi phenomena 885 00:32:54,389 --> 00:32:52,720 the abilities of humans to operate in 886 00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:54,399 these capacities 887 00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:56,320 and i have to get confirmation from him 888 00:33:00,070 --> 00:32:58,080 from him on these uh numbers because he 889 00:33:03,830 --> 00:33:00,080 says the odds against chance 890 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:03,840 of which were 1 in 104 which doesn't 891 00:33:08,149 --> 00:33:06,640 seem that large uh but he says to put 892 00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:08,159 that in perspective 893 00:33:11,669 --> 00:33:09,840 science estimates that the number of 894 00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:11,679 atoms in the known universe is something 895 00:33:15,269 --> 00:33:12,559 like 896 00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:15,279 10 to the 84th 897 00:33:17,990 --> 00:33:16,159 and 898 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,000 once again not a statistician that 899 00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:20,640 doesn't make sense to me but he says 900 00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:22,559 both the parallab and the noetic 901 00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:25,679 scientists noetic sciences lab 902 00:33:29,630 --> 00:33:27,519 both succeeded in showing that these 903 00:33:32,549 --> 00:33:29,640 types of abilities of consciousness 904 00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:32,559 psychokinesis telepathy 905 00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:34,960 these things are very real it succeeded 906 00:33:41,669 --> 00:33:36,880 in showing that through 907 00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,630 sorry 908 00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:44,720 it succeeded it succeeded in showing 909 00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:47,600 that through rigorous scientific means 910 00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:50,159 it wasn't easy easy to do that where 911 00:33:53,909 --> 00:33:50,960 where 912 00:33:55,750 --> 00:33:53,919 both of them were less successful 913 00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:55,760 is in developing a framework for 914 00:34:00,070 --> 00:33:57,360 explaining them 915 00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:00,080 if it's real the question becomes 916 00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:02,799 what is the mechanism 917 00:34:07,350 --> 00:34:05,200 and they were less successful still 918 00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:07,360 in telling us what to do about it in 919 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:09,200 other words all right what does this all 920 00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:12,800 mean for humanity what's the next step 921 00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,069 and then ralph jumps in and he says 922 00:34:25,430 --> 00:34:24,159 uh also 923 00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:25,440 you know they had to worry about 924 00:34:28,869 --> 00:34:26,960 duplicating it 925 00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:28,879 and adam says well 926 00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:31,599 these have been replicated 927 00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:33,359 remember the key to this these kind of 928 00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:35,440 experiments is replication get as many 929 00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,000 other labs and other 930 00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:40,000 scientists to have their own studies and 931 00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:42,000 replicate the same results 932 00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:44,399 adam says the issue of replication comes 933 00:34:47,589 --> 00:34:46,320 up inside research because people are 934 00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:47,599 people right 935 00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,280 they're not constants that you can hold 936 00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,200 the same each time 937 00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:53,440 so things like strict replicability in 938 00:34:56,629 --> 00:34:55,679 these studies is a slippery slippery 939 00:34:59,990 --> 00:34:56,639 slope 940 00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:00,000 slippery concept but nonetheless you 941 00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:03,760 still have highly significant p-values 942 00:35:07,829 --> 00:35:06,160 and that represents you know 943 00:35:10,390 --> 00:35:07,839 how much it is 944 00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:10,400 statistically significant 945 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:12,240 and i linked to p-value so you can read 946 00:35:19,589 --> 00:35:17,030 the information 947 00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:19,599 did not ultimately ultimately tell us 948 00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,760 much about how to deal with received 949 00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:23,280 information of the 950 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:24,960 subjective side 951 00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:27,920 like mr summers experienced 952 00:35:32,950 --> 00:35:30,480 my experience is that the kinds of 953 00:35:34,230 --> 00:35:32,960 physical evidence that mr elizondo has 954 00:35:36,230 --> 00:35:34,240 brought to the table 955 00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:36,240 uh with the ufo footage 956 00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:39,200 cannot and should not at this time you 957 00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:40,960 know it's fundamental fundamentally 958 00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:42,640 different than the kinds of subjective 959 00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:44,480 anecdotes 960 00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:46,160 and he's comparing to he's comparing 961 00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,760 that to marshall summers it's so 962 00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:49,280 different he goes 963 00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:56,069 this is information the uap videos that 964 00:36:00,310 --> 00:35:58,160 the whole world is watching you know 965 00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:00,320 that is meant to create an opening for 966 00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:02,400 understanding and accepting these 967 00:36:05,349 --> 00:36:04,480 phenomena on behalf of the general 968 00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,359 public 969 00:36:09,589 --> 00:36:07,200 that's very different than the type of 970 00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:09,599 information that mr summers is receiving 971 00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:11,440 but i believe that the research that i 972 00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:12,960 just discussed 973 00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,440 does tell us that we cannot dismiss 974 00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:17,760 these type of received information and 975 00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:21,200 subjective experiences on the basis 976 00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:23,760 of there being no physical mechanism in 977 00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:25,280 other words just because we can't figure 978 00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:27,119 out how it works doesn't mean it's not 979 00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:28,400 happening 980 00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,160 the evidence for this type of stuff 981 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:32,640 existing is substantial the only reason 982 00:36:38,829 --> 00:36:35,280 it's paranormal is because the standard 983 00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:38,839 model of physics has yet to explain it 984 00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:41,920 yet and this is where lou jumps in and 985 00:36:48,870 --> 00:36:45,119 adds some of his insight 986 00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:48,880 and he says if i may adam real quick 987 00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:51,200 i think you're absolutely correct 988 00:36:55,990 --> 00:36:53,760 i think as we mentioned before the 989 00:36:57,829 --> 00:36:56,000 difference between paranormal and normal 990 00:36:59,430 --> 00:36:57,839 is usually just time 991 00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:59,440 and that usually settles the argument 992 00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:00,880 real quick 993 00:37:05,270 --> 00:37:02,960 i think from my perspective you know i'm 994 00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:05,280 always very cautious you said a couple 995 00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,800 of things that i think are i'd like to 996 00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:09,040 reiterate if you don't mind 997 00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:11,119 but people who have transformative 998 00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:12,880 experiences 999 00:37:17,589 --> 00:37:15,040 history is full of examples where human 1000 00:37:19,510 --> 00:37:17,599 beings have had transformative or 1001 00:37:21,349 --> 00:37:19,520 extraordinary experiences and at the end 1002 00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:21,359 of the day it comes down to two things 1003 00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:23,200 and i would ask you 1004 00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:26,160 what is the difference between a vision 1005 00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,280 and the hallucination and from that 1006 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:31,920 really comes interpretation one man's 1007 00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:34,320 vision is another man's hallucination 1008 00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:38,160 and so forth and i'm not at all saying 1009 00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:40,720 one is or one is not necessarily what's 1010 00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,160 happening here 1011 00:37:47,109 --> 00:37:44,560 meaning with marshall 1012 00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:47,119 i'm just being in general terms 1013 00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:48,720 and you know there were studies in the 1014 00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:51,119 60s with psychedelic drug use 1015 00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:53,119 that caused physiological changes 1016 00:37:58,069 --> 00:37:55,680 biological changes in the brain 1017 00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:58,079 that open up receptors to be able to do 1018 00:38:01,990 --> 00:38:00,079 things in some cases you know people got 1019 00:38:03,829 --> 00:38:02,000 people did get hospitalized and it could 1020 00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:03,839 because they saw strange things and they 1021 00:38:08,390 --> 00:38:05,760 and they did strange things 1022 00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:08,400 but in other cases people swear 1023 00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:10,320 by the use of certain drugs that it 1024 00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:11,839 opens the mind 1025 00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:13,839 allows them to be more receptive and do 1026 00:38:17,109 --> 00:38:14,880 things 1027 00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:17,119 and there are there are some tests that 1028 00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,910 you know 1029 00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:23,520 this is still lou 1030 00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,520 we do see interesting things that the 1031 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:28,240 human mind is able to do i mentioned 1032 00:38:31,430 --> 00:38:29,520 remote viewing 1033 00:38:32,870 --> 00:38:31,440 but there's been some other experiments 1034 00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:32,880 for example with metronome 1035 00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:35,359 synchronization you see random number 1036 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:37,119 generators you know i'm very familiar 1037 00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:38,160 with that 1038 00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:40,240 and even to some degree one could argue 1039 00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,960 that 1040 00:38:44,950 --> 00:38:43,040 you know there has been some proposals 1041 00:38:47,109 --> 00:38:44,960 i'm not going to say by who 1042 00:38:48,390 --> 00:38:47,119 or where i heard this from if anyone 1043 00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:48,400 asks but 1044 00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:51,040 even something like havana syndrome you 1045 00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:54,320 know imagine if a foreign adversary 1046 00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:56,640 has developed a way to take 1047 00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,520 psychotronic weapons development which 1048 00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,440 we were involved with everyone was 1049 00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,760 involved with in the 60s and 70s 1050 00:39:07,349 --> 00:39:05,040 and for the for those who don't know 1051 00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:07,359 what cyclotronic weaponry is it is 1052 00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,160 integration of technology tronic that's 1053 00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:12,880 the word tronic psychotronic 1054 00:39:16,150 --> 00:39:13,599 and 1055 00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:16,160 human cognitive abilities to affect 1056 00:39:20,790 --> 00:39:18,800 something physically okay 1057 00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:20,800 so a machine in which you know let's say 1058 00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:22,000 the russians and the americans are 1059 00:39:26,150 --> 00:39:23,520 playing a game of chess in the back of 1060 00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:26,160 the room there's a russian sitting there 1061 00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:27,599 you know when he's got a little device 1062 00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:28,720 there 1063 00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:31,520 that is used to amplify certain thought 1064 00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:34,240 waves to affect actions or make someone 1065 00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:37,200 feel sick or make someone scared and 1066 00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:39,040 make someone nervous or make someone 1067 00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:40,800 nervous 1068 00:39:44,150 --> 00:39:42,400 these were real experiments that were 1069 00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:44,160 done and there's some real interesting 1070 00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:46,320 evidence to suggest that some of that 1071 00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:49,040 may indeed be quite real 1072 00:39:53,990 --> 00:39:52,560 and i put up slide 9 which was part of 1073 00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,000 the atip 1074 00:39:59,510 --> 00:39:56,400 briefing that talked about 1075 00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:59,520 the ability for an enemy 1076 00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:00,480 and 1077 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:02,640 since this was with with atip i believe 1078 00:40:09,190 --> 00:40:05,760 the enemy is non-human an enemy you know 1079 00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:09,200 to compro compromise national security 1080 00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:10,720 they could penetrate 1081 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:12,400 us facilities 1082 00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:14,800 manipulate both physical and cognitive 1083 00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:17,920 environments influence decision makers 1084 00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,440 and use 1085 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:21,599 cyclotronic weapons 1086 00:40:27,829 --> 00:40:25,520 cognitive human interface interface 1087 00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:27,839 penetration of solid surfaces 1088 00:40:32,550 --> 00:40:30,640 instantaneous sensor disassembly i think 1089 00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:32,560 he's talking about shutting off or 1090 00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:35,040 turning on nukes 1091 00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:37,359 alteration manipulation of biological 1092 00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:38,480 organisms 1093 00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:42,079 anomalies in the space-time construct 1094 00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:45,599 and unique cognitive human interface 1095 00:40:53,270 --> 00:40:47,760 experiences which i believe he told 1096 00:40:53,990 --> 00:40:53,280 james ian dole he goes that's your ce5 1097 00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:54,000 so 1098 00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,040 lucette lou says but again we must and i 1099 00:41:03,030 --> 00:40:59,440 think we must always make sure that the 1100 00:41:06,630 --> 00:41:05,190 in anyone's claim of being able to do 1101 00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:06,640 something like that 1102 00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:08,319 is the difference between 1103 00:41:13,510 --> 00:41:11,680 again a vision and a hallucination and 1104 00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:13,520 it might not be that cut and dry it 1105 00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:15,599 might be more subjective than that 1106 00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:18,000 there may be elements of both in someone 1107 00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:20,000 who has and this goes back to the whole 1108 00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,400 idea of religion if you look at any one 1109 00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:24,000 particular religion out there whether 1110 00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,079 it's western judeo christ christian 1111 00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,160 religion or any other religion that's 1112 00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:30,640 eastern you know there are these moments 1113 00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:33,280 of enlightenment whether it be buddha 1114 00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:34,960 who had his moment of enlightenment or 1115 00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:37,040 it be some of the hindu gods or again 1116 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:39,280 jesus christ or anybody else 1117 00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:42,720 they had these extraordinary claims 1118 00:41:48,470 --> 00:41:45,359 and again in some cases 1119 00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,480 some people it's disproven 1120 00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:50,079 and those are no longer religions 1121 00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:52,000 they're kind of these cults 1122 00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:53,599 and then you have religions where you 1123 00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,760 have these bona fide claims of miracles 1124 00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:57,119 right 1125 00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,040 and being able to see things and being 1126 00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:00,560 prophets so 1127 00:42:05,510 --> 00:42:02,960 by no means am i trying to discredit 1128 00:42:07,910 --> 00:42:05,520 anything that mr marshall has to say 1129 00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:07,920 i'm just saying that we have to approach 1130 00:42:15,109 --> 00:42:13,990 marshall used the words two things 1131 00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:15,119 he said 1132 00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:17,520 he received a message from someone and 1133 00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:19,200 by the way sometimes 1134 00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,599 i'm pretty good about i think i fixed 1135 00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:24,160 most of my typos but sometimes there are 1136 00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:26,640 there are sentences that just end 1137 00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:27,599 so 1138 00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:33,760 how it is and danny sheehan is the worst 1139 00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:36,240 at that sorry danny but he'll have a 1140 00:42:40,069 --> 00:42:38,000 run-on sentence and then in the middle 1141 00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:40,079 of it it'll change who he's talking to 1142 00:42:43,430 --> 00:42:41,440 and it's sometimes it's really hard to 1143 00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:43,440 follow with written word i tried to 1144 00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:45,280 change it and edit it so it's clearer 1145 00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,390 so lou continues he says marshall says 1146 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,079 he received a message from someone from 1147 00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,920 a very far distance 1148 00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:58,400 well if you don't see the individual my 1149 00:43:01,510 --> 00:43:00,079 question is 1150 00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,520 what are you using to make that 1151 00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:03,440 determination that something is either 1152 00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:06,560 far or near or in between 1153 00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,400 is it an emotion is it a sense that 1154 00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:11,040 you're feeling or is it an actual vision 1155 00:43:15,349 --> 00:43:13,760 he says he didn't see him so please i 1156 00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:15,359 want to hear this marshall 1157 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:17,839 and marshall says okay this is good well 1158 00:43:22,630 --> 00:43:20,400 my work has really been about angelic 1159 00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:22,640 contact so my mind 1160 00:43:26,309 --> 00:43:24,079 and lou says 1161 00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:26,319 about angelic contact lou says which by 1162 00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:28,480 the way i'm not arguing just for the 1163 00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:29,520 record 1164 00:43:33,270 --> 00:43:31,119 all right that that's a little strange 1165 00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:33,280 to me because 1166 00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,440 if you're if you're arguing the source 1167 00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:37,520 of the other information where he is 1168 00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:40,400 channeling the allies of humanity why 1169 00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:42,960 would you not argue the angelic content 1170 00:43:47,190 --> 00:43:44,640 how do we know it and maybe i'm 1171 00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:47,200 misunderstanding what lou said there but 1172 00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:48,880 i would think you would question 1173 00:43:53,589 --> 00:43:51,359 everything even the claims of angelic 1174 00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:53,599 contact how do we know it's angelic 1175 00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:55,520 contact so 1176 00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,640 you read that when you see the 1177 00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:58,640 transcript and maybe you can see if i'm 1178 00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,880 getting that wrong 1179 00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:02,000 so 1180 00:44:05,589 --> 00:44:04,000 and marshall talks about angelic content 1181 00:44:07,750 --> 00:44:05,599 he says which by the way 1182 00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:07,760 has been a long training for me to even 1183 00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,240 be able to do to do it because it's a 1184 00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:12,319 very remarkable and different use of my 1185 00:44:15,510 --> 00:44:13,440 mind 1186 00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:15,520 and it also creates some health problems 1187 00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,480 for me along the way 1188 00:44:22,069 --> 00:44:20,319 but the allies this was a different kind 1189 00:44:24,309 --> 00:44:22,079 of communication i say distant because 1190 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,319 the voice was very faint as if you're on 1191 00:44:29,190 --> 00:44:26,400 a long distance phone call with somebody 1192 00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:29,200 far away and it's not a great connection 1193 00:44:33,349 --> 00:44:31,760 so the voice is really like this 1194 00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:33,359 and so you know 1195 00:44:37,430 --> 00:44:35,280 i had to really pay by the way that was 1196 00:44:39,829 --> 00:44:37,440 me doing marshall explaining how the 1197 00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:39,839 voice so the voice is really like this 1198 00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,280 that's what it sounds like when he hears 1199 00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:42,960 it in his head because i had to really 1200 00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:44,640 pay attention to be able to speak what i 1201 00:44:49,589 --> 00:44:47,359 was hearing and record my speech this is 1202 00:44:52,710 --> 00:44:49,599 not you know i'm speaking i'm speaking 1203 00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:52,720 someone else's voice here i'm 1204 00:44:58,870 --> 00:44:57,990 i think i left out a word he goes this 1205 00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:58,880 is not 1206 00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:01,200 he goes i'm not i think he says i'm not 1207 00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:02,800 speaking someone else's voice here he 1208 00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:04,319 goes i'm just speaking what is coming 1209 00:45:09,270 --> 00:45:07,680 into his mind so he hears it 1210 00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,280 and then he just records it it's not 1211 00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:11,040 like you know you're hearing a different 1212 00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:12,319 voice like the voice of the 1213 00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:13,839 extraterrestrial the alleged 1214 00:45:20,790 --> 00:45:16,240 extraterrestrial that would be trans 1215 00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:22,470 and then lou says 1216 00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:24,560 the distance that's your interpretation 1217 00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:26,960 because the signal wasn't clear 1218 00:45:31,349 --> 00:45:28,720 marshall says that's my interpretation 1219 00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:31,359 this is that it isn't far away i didn't 1220 00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:33,280 feel like it was something in my room or 1221 00:45:37,510 --> 00:45:35,040 nearby 1222 00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:37,520 you know and it was complete completely 1223 00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:39,520 different than the angelic thing which 1224 00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:41,920 is a real powerful presence that 1225 00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:44,720 overtakes you it's not physical 1226 00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:47,760 but it's so palpable 1227 00:45:52,309 --> 00:45:50,079 and lugos so in essence 1228 00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:52,319 is it fair to say 1229 00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,640 that it was just an internal feeling 1230 00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,400 that you had 1231 00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,319 marshall said 1232 00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,880 it was a voice lulu says no no no no no 1233 00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:02,880 i understand i understood 1234 00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:05,839 but you can't confirm if it was far away 1235 00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:09,680 or near or anything like that 1236 00:46:13,030 --> 00:46:11,040 marshall says 1237 00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:13,040 that was my experience 1238 00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,079 lou says your experience okay 1239 00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:18,960 so it's a personal experience 1240 00:46:21,790 --> 00:46:20,240 you said 1241 00:46:24,630 --> 00:46:21,800 a small 1242 00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:24,640 expeditionary force which i found very 1243 00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:26,160 interesting because 1244 00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:29,920 that's my terminology right military 1245 00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,880 and 1246 00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:32,079 by the way 1247 00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,599 at this point in the transcript you will 1248 00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:35,359 see 20 minutes 1249 00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,839 picking up at this point pretty much 1250 00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:39,440 uh of the conference that somebody 1251 00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,079 posted on vimeo 1252 00:46:46,230 --> 00:46:44,319 so lou says you know 1253 00:46:49,349 --> 00:46:46,240 expeditionary force 1254 00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:49,359 that's my terminology right military 1255 00:46:53,670 --> 00:46:51,839 marshal says oh it is well 1256 00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,680 that's how from what i've learned from 1257 00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:55,760 them and as i look at the data 1258 00:46:59,750 --> 00:46:58,000 i've been looking at this for 35 years 1259 00:47:02,470 --> 00:46:59,760 and and i came to this without a lot of 1260 00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:02,480 preconclusions or or trying to make this 1261 00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,480 spiritual or trying to confirm my 1262 00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:06,960 religious views or anything 1263 00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:08,880 this was like something i just felt you 1264 00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:09,599 know 1265 00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:15,200 this because this could be important 1266 00:47:20,390 --> 00:47:16,960 so i sat with this for a long time i was 1267 00:47:22,710 --> 00:47:20,400 really uncomfortable with it in a way 1268 00:47:24,870 --> 00:47:22,720 i'm still uncomfortable with it i'm a 1269 00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:24,880 pretty reasonable person i'm not given 1270 00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:27,599 to fantasies i consider myself to be 1271 00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,640 actually 1272 00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,720 pretty conservative in the way that i at 1273 00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:32,800 least i live my life 1274 00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:39,510 so this this was something given to me 1275 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:42,400 with a request to share it with others 1276 00:47:46,870 --> 00:47:44,720 and i think its value in that sense has 1277 00:47:49,349 --> 00:47:46,880 to be based on the merit of its message 1278 00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:49,359 and how well that corroborates with what 1279 00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,079 we see and know about this phenomenon on 1280 00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:54,720 the ground i mean there does have to be 1281 00:47:58,150 --> 00:47:56,559 some resonance there 1282 00:48:00,630 --> 00:47:58,160 in other words if he was channeling 1283 00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:00,640 information that said 1284 00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:03,280 you will see purple dinosaurs in your 1285 00:48:08,549 --> 00:48:06,160 skies next week and they will talk about 1286 00:48:10,790 --> 00:48:08,559 how they were created by the 1287 00:48:13,270 --> 00:48:10,800 fictional cartoon character barney you 1288 00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:13,280 know it's like no his message his 1289 00:48:17,270 --> 00:48:15,680 messages are directly related to ufos 1290 00:48:18,309 --> 00:48:17,280 which we know exists 1291 00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:18,319 and 1292 00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:20,319 these beings or alleged beings are 1293 00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:22,160 claiming to give us information about 1294 00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:22,960 what 1295 00:48:27,829 --> 00:48:25,599 the alleged extraterrestrials are doing 1296 00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:27,839 on our planet so yeah it's not just out 1297 00:48:31,190 --> 00:48:28,880 of left field that's something we 1298 00:48:33,349 --> 00:48:31,200 already know we're dealing with 1299 00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:33,359 it's just allegedly trying to provide 1300 00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:39,030 and that's basically what he says 1301 00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,640 marshall continues he goes this is not 1302 00:48:44,150 --> 00:48:42,240 asking us to believe in something we've 1303 00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:44,160 never experienced or we have no idea 1304 00:48:48,630 --> 00:48:46,559 what it is it's more to speak to the 1305 00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:48,640 nature of what we're seeing 1306 00:48:52,790 --> 00:48:50,880 in our skies and oceans 1307 00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:52,800 and space 1308 00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:54,720 with information that we could not gain 1309 00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:57,440 from our own so basically yeah these 1310 00:49:01,990 --> 00:49:00,079 allies of humanity are allegedly 1311 00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:02,000 supplementing giving us the background 1312 00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:03,680 information about what's behind the 1313 00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:06,400 whole ufo phenomenon 1314 00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:09,280 as far as this particular group of 1315 00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:11,760 extraterrestrials 1316 00:49:15,030 --> 00:49:13,599 allegedly and i will keep saying that 1317 00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:15,040 because people seem to forget that i 1318 00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:16,880 have not said anything about me 1319 00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,119 believing this i find it interesting it 1320 00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,359 resonates with me doesn't mean i believe 1321 00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:23,520 it 1322 00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:24,480 so 1323 00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:25,680 lou says 1324 00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:31,829 how you have the knowledge that this was 1325 00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:33,760 you know may i ask how you have the 1326 00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:35,920 knowledge that this was a small 1327 00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:38,559 expeditionary expeditionary force 1328 00:49:46,230 --> 00:49:42,160 not something more robust or elaborate 1329 00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:46,240 you know you used very specific words 1330 00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:48,319 and marshall says 1331 00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:51,520 that's revealed in the briefings itself 1332 00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:53,359 as far as it being an expeditionary 1333 00:49:57,829 --> 00:49:56,160 force that's what the briefings claim 1334 00:49:59,910 --> 00:49:57,839 so lou says 1335 00:50:01,030 --> 00:49:59,920 okay so in essence it was communicated 1336 00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:01,040 to you 1337 00:50:05,510 --> 00:50:03,760 by someone somewhere else something else 1338 00:50:07,750 --> 00:50:05,520 that this is a small group of 1339 00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:07,760 individuals that are part of this 1340 00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:10,400 endeavor 1341 00:50:14,950 --> 00:50:12,480 and marshall says yeah they are this is 1342 00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:14,960 their claim and okay i'll accept it i'll 1343 00:50:20,069 --> 00:50:17,520 receive the information i'll sit with it 1344 00:50:21,910 --> 00:50:20,079 and see how i feel about about it 1345 00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:21,920 because i did that i did that for quite 1346 00:50:25,349 --> 00:50:23,680 a while and i didn't want to be the 1347 00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:25,359 person to deliver this i can tell you 1348 00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:26,720 that right now 1349 00:50:31,750 --> 00:50:29,119 this is not the whole ufo thing is 1350 00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:31,760 really messy and i just you know i 1351 00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:34,079 learned from 1352 00:50:39,349 --> 00:50:36,400 sorry not adam uh 1353 00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:39,359 he goes i learn from and then lou says 1354 00:50:43,670 --> 00:50:41,520 i can sympathize with you you know as 1355 00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:43,680 far as it being messy i'm not arguing 1356 00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:46,400 with you danny says i bet you can and 1357 00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:49,200 laughs lou says if there's one person 1358 00:50:54,549 --> 00:50:51,839 who can attest to how messy this is how 1359 00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,559 messy this topic can be i am certainly 1360 00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:56,640 the living proof of that i'm just trying 1361 00:51:03,670 --> 00:51:00,319 to figure out a little bit more about 1362 00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:03,680 and then mr blumenthal jumps in 1363 00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:06,400 and says i gotta say 1364 00:51:11,349 --> 00:51:08,079 one of the fascinating things about this 1365 00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:11,359 and i'm gonna take a break right now